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Michelle Styles's avatar

Like you, I have a great and deep love for John Adams.

It is very important that the facts are properly investigated and the rule of law adhered to. To do anything less is to give comfort to America's enemies and detractors.

It is not very exciting and playing armchair detective is great but really detailed forensics takes many man hours.

In the meantime both sides should be seeking to lower the temperature.

For one thing, a bit in the same the BLM protests took the attention away from the Hong Kong Democracy protestors, the intense focus on what is now a legal matter takes the attention away from the over 30k killed, most likely on a shoot to kill order from Khamenei (according to info obtained by the Institute for the Study of War). Taking the focus away from the excesses of this failing and murderous regime gives them yet again a free pass. What happened in the immediate aftermath of the Iranian Revolution was dreadful. Iran A Modern History -- a weighty tome of a book but really important. Having the media focus on these protests means the massacre of thousands gets overlooked (The BBC are very bad on this)

And the whole 'giving the police/law enforcement' no good options in terms of protesting leads to this sort of thing. It is what the hard left extremists want. In the UK, nearly 100 Palestine Activists were arrested at the weekend when they stormed a jail and refused to leave. Needless to say the police took a dim view of the action. Palestinian Action said it was 'peaceful protest'/

There does need to be better training and lessons must be learnt for ICE because these sorts of on the edge of violence protests will continue and that means the possibility of continued tragedy. They need to plan for it and show restraint, even in the face of extreme provocation.

There should also be a reasoned debate on the need for reform of the immigration system in the US -- this debate should have happened in the 1970s (I grew up in California, a border state). The entire system is creaking and has been for a long time but successive governments duck the issue.

Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

100% with ya--loved this "peace" an' I too admire the clear-headed-ness an' deep morality of John Adams. While ICE appears ta play their Kaiser Roll inna non-kosher-style ham-fisted manner (which don't win friends), the screedin' protest-turds need their heads eggs-ham-in'd too.

It's totally a FAFO sit-chew-ayshun... By all means protest--in the park, with a permit, gather as MANY ya want but ta approach armed OfficeSourds is risky.... Heck, I didn't even do dat in Brooklyn when I needed HELP!--An' old "persuader" (aka "peacemaker!") is quite the weapon of intimidation...an' no doubt even the doughy donut-stuffed sugar snoozers I'd see "on the beat" would be aroused bein' approached by an unhinged Angry Mob. Have these fools no FEAR?! Duz their "madness" (all senses) cloud their vision?!

But then again...there's sumthin' totally SUS 'bout dis whole thang... Think jus' bout the names... Pretti (Pretty...as in "I feel pretty...") & Good?! Pretty good lol. Then I'm wartchin' the Sharpton-like "shake down ahrtists" like Miz Nekima Levy Armstrong repeat her BLM performance & evoke George Floyd, the previous con job meant ta stoke anger.... Why do I feel both Pretti & Good were gettin' orders (ordures!) from their movements an' this wuzn't jus' au-natch-ur-elle? Is George "Tsuris" behind it? Singham? This jus' stinks of a set up an' tho' I DO believe these patsies died, perhaps they were told that sumbuddy would be watchin' their backs... how many have trusted their handlers...

Anywhoo... we DO need the facts.... but kin we count on EVAH gettin' em? Aye there's the rub... BBQ style which seems ta be whut they're doin' to our "shitties." G-d Bless America anywayz!

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